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TomCaldwell Brush with nobility 3 Apr 19 2009, 4:46 AM EDT by TomCaldwell
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Pursuing Hugh & Helen (Campbell) Walker I find that someone has her grandfather John Campbell marrying Janet Morton at Loudoun and that this John's father is none other than James Campbell 2nd Earl of Loudoun and his wife Margaret Montgomerie. It is rather astounding the the second and known son of the Earl's granddaughter should end up a cottar's wife at remote Bridgeburnbent.

However it seems as hard to prove incorrect as it is to prove correct. Nothing much is seemingly known about this particular son - his elder brother Hugh of course went on to be the third earl of Loudoun. But John - he is variously known as Colonel John Campbell of Shankistoun and other snippets but it is all vague and contradictory. He is supposed to have married a Barbara Villiers but I think it is 'wrong John". He cannot have been the laird of Shankistoun as that position is filled by another branch of the Campbell family which seems well documented on the web.

James the second Earl is said to have lived and died abroad. He certainly died abroad but the Loudoun Kirk site transcriptions clearly show that James and his wife have two children (at least) christened at Loudoun - Hugh on 14/1/1674 and John on 8/3/1675.

These were troubled times fraught with covenanting issues - the first Earl John was in the thick of it and his Campbell kin the Marquis of Argyll went to the Maiden - John 1st Earl made a rousing defence of the Marquiss and it is thought that he might have had doubts as to his own fate. In the troubles of 1650 he was apparently charged with and to be tried for adultery - which were only dropped after Hamilton's defeat at Worcester and the Whiggamore raid in which John was involved. He had his estates confiscated by Cromwell with only a pension for his wife and children and then after the restoration was subject to a huge fine 'for assistance given to Cromwell'.
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TomCaldwell Hugh Walker and Helen Campbell of Bridgeburnbent 1 Apr 7 2009, 3:39 AM EDT by TomCaldwell
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Hugh Walker and his wife Helen Campbell lived at Bridgeburnbent - with a little difficulty I found it marked as 'ruins' on Thomson's 1832 Atlas of Scotland. As the data was collected some years earlier Bridgeburnbent must have been in a state of disrepair when they died there - Hugh in 1822 and Helen in 1823.

I don't know very much more about Bridgeburnbent except that it was at the junctionof the Glen Water and Mucks Burn between the present Gateside farm and North Carlingcraig. It may even have been a locality rather than a specific property - but a small property seems more likely.

From this site I have found that Foulpapple Road over the moors to Eaglesham was the route taken by weavers to take their finished cloth to market and bring back yarn for the next lot of cloth. So the road was probably busier in those days.

Hugh was classed as a labourer when his son Matthew was born in 1767 so he is very likely to have been a cottar sellig his labour to surrounding farms and subsistence farming a smallholding.

They also had a daughter Jean and possibly a John as well - there are weaver families of Walkers in Newmilnsand Darvel that may have sprung from other children of the marriage.

Matthew is my continuing ancestor - he seems to have joined the army or the militia and married Anne Laidler (or Laidlaw) who was born in England. There only known child was Helen Walker who was born at Fort George in 1807 when Matthew was in the 6th Veterans Division there.

Helen Married Matthew Caldwell the second son of John Caldwell and Mary Morton of Galston. Aftre their first child Anne was born they went to Riccarton. In the 1841 census Matthew Walker (aged 75) and Anne Laidler (aged 75)were living in Polwarth Street Galston - Matthew was a Chelsea Pensioner and their grandaughter Anne Caldwell aged 14.
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